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The determined KD value (1.8 mM) is influenced by the presence of both Ca2+ and EGTA. However, by using the the determined KD value the linearity of the calculated Mg2+ concentration is still very good. Both,  free EGTA and free Ca2+, concentrations that are significantly higher than the smallest Mg2+ but significantly lower than the highest Mg2+ concentration will however affect the apparent linearity. Therefore a medium that is as Ca2+ free possible should be used as a matter of principle, even if this example shows that good results may be be obtained even in the presence of heavy  Ca2+ contamination.
The determined KD value (1.8 mM) is influenced by the presence of both Ca2+ and EGTA. However, by using the the determined KD value the linearity of the calculated Mg2+ concentration is still very good. Significant concentrations of free Ca2+ have to be avoided to due the strong binding to Mg green. Concentrations of EDTA or DTPA should be kept as small as possible because the will reduce the free Mg2+ concentration to a different degree at low and high Mg2+ concentrations. A medium that is as Ca2+ free possible should be used as a matter of principle, even if this example shows that good results may be be obtained even in the presence of heavy  Ca2+ contamination.


[[User:Fasching Mario|Fasching Mario]] 12:02, 16 March 2015 (CET)
In this example all Mg concentration from 0.2 mM to 2 mM as input into the calibration calculation. However, in a real experiment for the calculation of KD only those magnesium concentrations should be used that cover the concentration range observed in the experiment.
 
[[User:Fasching Mario|Fasching Mario]] 10:34, 17 March 2015 (CET)

Revision as of 11:34, 17 March 2015

Mg green concentrations

used by OROBOROS for testing: stock: 2 mM in chamber: 2 µM

Mg2+ calibration experiment

The following calibration experiment was performed with a medium contaminated with Ca2+. Ca2+ impurities are a particular problem because a.) Mg green binds stronger to Ca2+ than to Mg2+ and b.) Ca2+ impurities are very common. The Ca2+ impurities were complexed by an EGTA titration before the Mg2+ calibration, without (in this case) negative effects on the Mg2+ performance.

Titrations:

  • Mg green 2 µL 2 mM --> 2 µM
  • EGTA titration: 3 * (5 µl 20 mM --> 50 µM) until very small changes in signal
  • DTPA 2 µl 20 mM -->20 µM
  • 10 * ( 4 µl MgCl2 0.1 M --> 0.2 mM)
  • EDTA 16 µl 500 mM --> 4 mM
  • EDTA 2 µl 500 mM --> 0.5 mM: no further change
  • MgCl2 80 µl 1 M --> 40 mM
  • MgCl2 20 µl 1 M --> 10 mM: no further change


(To allow performance tests a substance mimicking light scattering of typical samples was added to the medium, however this is not relevant for the results presented here.)

The addition of a very small concentration of either EDTA or DTPA in the beginning of the experiment is suggested by the produced of the fluorophores (for all similar fluorophores) to remove traces of transition metal cations.


Shown in the DatLab graph is the original raw voltage as recoded by the fluorescence sensor and the Mg2+ concentration. For calibration determining KD and slope) and plotting the calculated Mg concentration (via the experimental scripting function of DatLab) the following relation was used

[Mg2+] =  Kd * ( F- Fmin) / (Fmac -F) + intercept

with

F .......Fluorescence signal Fmin..... minimal fluorescence signal, free Mg2+ concentration = 0, established by excess EDTA Fmax .....maximal fluorescence signal, fluorophore indicator saturated with Mg2+, established by excess of MgCl2


MF686b A module DL.png

MF686b A module calibration.png

The determined KD value (1.8 mM) is influenced by the presence of both Ca2+ and EGTA. However, by using the the determined KD value the linearity of the calculated Mg2+ concentration is still very good. Significant concentrations of free Ca2+ have to be avoided to due the strong binding to Mg green. Concentrations of EDTA or DTPA should be kept as small as possible because the will reduce the free Mg2+ concentration to a different degree at low and high Mg2+ concentrations. A medium that is as Ca2+ free possible should be used as a matter of principle, even if this example shows that good results may be be obtained even in the presence of heavy Ca2+ contamination.

In this example all Mg concentration from 0.2 mM to 2 mM as input into the calibration calculation. However, in a real experiment for the calculation of KD only those magnesium concentrations should be used that cover the concentration range observed in the experiment.

Fasching Mario 10:34, 17 March 2015 (CET)